Doom Eternal - The Digital Foundry Tech Review - id Tech 7 Is Incredible

21. mar. 2020
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Doom 2016 saw a classic franchise and a legendary developer revitalised - but Doom Eternal ramps everything up to the next level. Join John Linneman for a deep dive into id Tech 7, a look at id's development environment - plus of course, all formats are tested.
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  • id tech please takeover halo series as well🙏

    prateek kumar singhprateek kumar singhPred 15 urami
  • Other than Resident Evil 7 and Resident Evil 2 Remake its the only engine/game that makes me ask how my outdated PC can even run a game that looks this good.

    Friendly KoalaFriendly KoalaPred 21 uro
  • I have to be frank but digital foundry is best when coming to reviews. They don't give hollow reviews or thrash game companies. They go deep knee into technical area of game and game engine. And if there is some problem they point out in a mature way by providing fitting solution. Example - halo infinite gameplay. You have my respect digital foundry.

    CUN_009CUN_009Pred 7 dnevi
  • Halo infinite looks like this game with the Geodecals turned off completely

    DtDtPred 7 dnevi
  • Microsoft Bought Zenimax, so they Own Id-Software and Bethesda. I wonder how this Engine could be used for something like Halo, it could be incredible.

    DtDtPred 7 dnevi
  • In id Software we trust, I pray only to Marty Stratton

    Joseph DreddJoseph DreddPred 7 dnevi
  • It looks like a blurry mess on X1 but thankfully nobody bought that console.

    genderfluid vikinggenderfluid vikingPred 8 dnevi
  • The only thing I don't like is it doesn't have left trigger ADS

    100011110110010110010000000100011110110010110010000000Pred 10 dnevi
  • I can't wait to test it on the new consoles!

    Josué Benjamín HernándezJosué Benjamín HernándezPred 15 dnevi
  • My GTX 1050TI : Barely runs red dead redemption at 30fps Also My GTX 1050TI : Runs Doom Eternal at 200 fps

    MœPred 16 dnevi
  • I started to experience some problems after the last update. The game run on high/ultra on gtx 1060 with about 90-100 fps. Now it can drop even to 40s on low. What's the reason?

    HarmonicaPLHarmonicaPLPred 17 dnevi
  • I hope Bethesda should use Id Tech for future game titles such as Fallout 5 and Starfield, instead of their outdated buggy Creation Engine.

    Kevin Fuk The Token Evil TeammateKevin Fuk The Token Evil TeammatePred 19 dnevi
  • The environments in this game are breathtaking - amazing design/texture/lighting work.

    maulCSmaulCSPred 20 dnevi
  • iD tech engines have some of the best g/free sync games out there. Really wish more games were developed on the tech.

    OneBagTravelOneBagTravelPred 26 dnevi
  • There is nothing like playing an optimized game like this on a PC you built yourself. The sense of satisfaction one gets at seeing visuals like this at well over 100 fps on a graphics setting called Ultra Nightmare cannot be overstated! id truly made a masterpiece here for the PC enthusiast who has been playing DOOM since the beginning.

    Jonny FriesenJonny FriesenPred 27 dnevi
  • And now this is owned by Microsoft and they just should drop the own engine thing and do Halo in id engine in my opinion

    Shaka BonoShaka BonoPred 28 dnevi
  • I wonder how well that would run on mobile.

    Bare _ GamerBare _ GamerPred mesecem
    • @Nick Motsarsky Its Tegra seems pretty decent even though underclocked. And Switch runs Crysis after all!

      Bare _ GamerBare _ GamerPred 16 dnevi
    • Better than it will run on the Switch..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • look, im just gonna say this, if you showed a screenshot of any of the gameplay in here at 1994, people will either say it's fake, or have an orgasm.

    RogueSpartan 285RogueSpartan 285Pred mesecem
  • Most of the waiting on PS4 Pro happens while connecting to the server.

    K1RTBK1RTBPred mesecem
  • Average Gamer: I love the shooting, killing, non stop action!! Digital Foundry: Pixels....

    HotakXviHotakXviPred mesecem
  • I'm not saying that John Carmack engines were not good, but idtech 7 is completely non carmack engine and it is the best of a lot. It is almost perfect engine, fully optimized across all platforms. They've really outdone themselves, the is flawless and engine is one of the best in industry.

    VedranVedranPred mesecem
  • Xbox one s getting 900p My PC getting 520p.

    Timber StalkerTimber StalkerPred mesecem
  • Such a gorgeous game

    Isaac ArlequinIsaac ArlequinPred mesecem
  • From a technical standpoint Doom Eternal is pretty much a next gen game running on current gen hardware

    The Real JSKThe Real JSKPred mesecem
    • @Nick Motsarsky That could be if they push 4k. The hardware could very likely be able to handle 1440p/high/rtx at 120fps or at least in the 90fps range

      The Real JSKThe Real JSKPred 15 dnevi
    • @The Real JSK Ray Tracing is so demanding, that there's no way they will hit 120fps with it. I see a locked 4K/60/Ultra/Ray Tracing.

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 15 dnevi
    • @Nick Motsarsky Ray tracing and higher framerate probably. The engine is so well opitimised I think this will be one of the first games to hit 120fps with ray tracing on the new consoles

      The Real JSKThe Real JSKPred 16 dnevi
    • Can't wait to see how it's enhanced on the new consoles..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • This was only possibly because they are still using a engine that the multi dimensional being known as John Carmack made for Rage. The man could make a engine. They have just built off his work.

    The UploaderThe UploaderPred mesecem
  • A game reaching 500fps doesnt tax the system enough - they could have pushed it so much more.

    syntaxed2syntaxed2Pred mesecem
    • Uh, yeah, at 720p and lowest settings..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • Boy, sure would be a shame if those dev tools leaked to someone commenting on a video that's showing them off...

    KevinKevinPred mesecem
  • It looks a lot like Starfield at 3:28

    emhaoemhaoPred mesecem
  • Just got around to this as it came to Xbox Game Pass recently. My gawd is this one of the best looking games* I’ve seen on Xbox one X.

    RoughTakeRoughTakePred mesecem
    • @Oo oO I'd say if anyone is getting the Series X, delay playing this game until then.

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
    • Damn I need to get it...

      KewlkatNDahatKewlkatNDahatPred mesecem
  • What about Switch?

    SMG4 Gaming - Poppy from DreamWorks' TrollsSMG4 Gaming - Poppy from DreamWorks' TrollsPred mesecem
    • What about it?

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • Can i beat Lowspecgamer?

    SMG4 Gaming - Poppy from DreamWorks' TrollsSMG4 Gaming - Poppy from DreamWorks' TrollsPred mesecem
  • Games using the ID tech engine look cartoony

    BargSlargBargSlargPred mesecem
  • Watch non-hdr monitor: Nice hdr effects!

    Matti MMatti MPred mesecem
  • if only they cared about art direction

    Johannes EstayJohannes EstayPred mesecem
  • lol xbox owns this engine now

    FlattedFifthFlattedFifthPred mesecem
    • @victor555117 Same thing. Microsoft has no use for it other than Xbox Game Studios !

      Ilias G1Ilias G1Pred 7 dnevi
    • Microsoft*

      victor555117victor555117Pred 25 dnevi
  • this game is complete and utter garbage.

    Michelle PhillipsMichelle PhillipsPred mesecem
    • Worst take of the week

      RuxisRuxisPred mesecem
    • Michelle Phillips wtf are you saying. You’re probably a fortnite noob

      Rafael JandresRafael JandresPred mesecem
  • Can it be that it looks so good because it doesn't have that jumping screen every game has when your character moves? In Doom games you GLIDE and that makes the difference for me anyways.

    ramensoup freakramensoup freakPred mesecem
  • hehehehehehehe it is microsoft's technology now

    SophisticatedAssSophisticatedAssPred mesecem
  • Wait, I'm dumbfounded, I have a ps4 slim, can it run Doom Eternal at 60fps or would it get locked at 30fps? I'm also new to the console world and I think I heard and read somewhere that the slim is capped or locked to run games at only 30fps. Aaaand, I've also read somewhere that there are games that you can run at 60fps on a slim. *visible confusion*

    Lester WalitLester WalitPred mesecem
    • @Lester Walit 60

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
    • Better than 30fps right? Been playing tons of 30fps games lately and I just want to refresh my eyes. Thanks guys!

      Lester WalitLester WalitPred mesecem
    • All PS4s run this game at 60 FPS. It may not be consistent depending on if you're playing on PS4 or PS4 Slim though.

      xman40100xman40100Pred mesecem
    • Lester Walit Ps4 slim runs rhis game at 60 fps

      Влад ЩёлоковВлад ЩёлоковPred mesecem
  • Now that ms owns id... they should give halo ip to them and shut 343i...

    dknight xsdknight xsPred mesecem
    • No 🤦🏾

      geek - head188geek - head188Pred mesecem
  • Masterpiece!

    Daniel EDDADaniel EDDAPred mesecem
  • my gamepass boiis wya

    Ameya ShettyAmeya ShettyPred mesecem
    • 🔥🔥🤭

      حمودي الملكيحمودي الملكيPred mesecem
    • @Sean doom eternal is already on gamepass it was coming to gamepass before Microsoft acquired zenimax

      3adir3adirPred mesecem
    • I'm looking forward to the Zenimax/Bethesda family of games coming to GamePass (both the already released games and getting new ones on release day). But I bought Doom Eternal day 1 on Steam, knew I would love it and I was right :P But yeah I've been sub'd to GamePass PC since it released and it's paid for its self every month. Having all the Zenimax/Bethesda studios and their IP's on GamePass and releasing day 1 bumps the value even more.

      SeanSeanPred mesecem
  • Can’t wait to play the next doom on ps5 🤣

    Scott BlackScott BlackPred mesecem
    • haha yeah me too... WAIT A SECOND...

      حمودي الملكيحمودي الملكيPred mesecem
    • 😂😂😂😂😂

      football memesfootball memesPred mesecem
    • LOLOL

      Ameya ShettyAmeya ShettyPred mesecem
  • Free on Gamepass Oct 1! Now that it’s a Microsoft owned IP it’s pretty much a guarantee that we’ll get an Xbox Series X optimized version

    goodthings19goodthings19Pred mesecem
    • 4k 120fps would be awesome for xbox players. It was an amazing experience on PC on an ultra-wide monitor and 144fps+

      victor555117victor555117Pred 25 dnevi
  • Whos here because doom eternal is coming to Xbox gamepass 😄❤

    angel ramirezangel ramirezPred 2 meseci
  • Bethesda should use this engine instead of creation Engine,

    Diego Alejandro GarzónDiego Alejandro GarzónPred 2 meseci
  • Why doesn't Bethesda have id software have them help optimise or atleast oversee their games before being released!

    Trey HildesheimTrey HildesheimPred 2 meseci
  • Im here because it’s coming to Gamepass on October 1. I am writing this comment as of September 25. 💪

    KeithZillaKeithZillaPred 2 meseci
  • megatextures are amazing nothing beats it the canyons in rage look super realistic and you actually feel a sense of vertigo it's really weird but i love it

    canned soupcanned soupPred 2 meseci
  • Lovely!

    Jack HeadroomJack HeadroomPred 2 meseci
  • And now it belongs to Microsoft

    JayRockJayRockPred 2 meseci
    • @yeet _ Yeah, the Microsoft board is going to love missing out on profits. 🤣

      mind wavesmind wavesPred mesecem
    • @mind waves Minecraft was already released on PlayStation before the acquisition. For sure current games will be released on PlayStation but for future games? I don't think so.

      yeet _yeet _Pred mesecem
    • @SophisticatedAss LOL that's what people said when Michaelsoft bought Minecraft too. 😂

      mind wavesmind wavesPred mesecem
    • @mind waves too bad it will never make it to the PlayStation anymore 😂

      SophisticatedAssSophisticatedAssPred mesecem
    • @mind waves yes lol Microsoft owns the studio the IP and the engine now

      EvilEvilPred mesecem
  • THIS IS ABSOLUTE WITCHCRAFTING! Those guys @id are glorious. Kudos for them!

    Rafael da SilvaRafael da SilvaPred 2 meseci
  • Despite all the hate it gets, I really enjoyed Rage. The combat and animation were top notch. The setting was cool. The graphics were great. My only let down was the weak ending.

    Nazraq SNazraq SPred 2 meseci
  • IDDQD

    Renat RavilovRenat RavilovPred 2 meseci
  • I actually had no other reaction to how extra ID went, but to laugh its insane how much tiny detail goes into DOOM: Eternal. like one pixel of light somewhere that wouldn't be noticed by ANYONE unless they could see them color coded

    CraneCranePred 2 meseci
  • Id softwares recommended specs are for 144 fps lol not 60, anything that isnt 15 years old can run eternal at or near 60

    Balsa BozovicBalsa BozovicPred 3 meseci
  • This engine put all others to shame, and yes im especially looking at you halo infinite/slipgate

    Balsa BozovicBalsa BozovicPred 3 meseci
  • Small FOV MOTION BLUR Cranked UP AND GUN IN MIDDLE all 3 things i hate and gives me headeche and makes my eyes hurt

    nuuskapeke11nuuskapeke11Pred 3 meseci
    • I'm gonna call bullshit on any of those things giving you a headache. And you can change/turn off the first two..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • I seem to remember someone announcing that the switch version was gonna release right alongside the other versions this time? What happened?

    Patrick RutherfordPatrick RutherfordPred 3 meseci
    • They probably realized the Switch wasn't able to run it as well as they expected and are now redoing major parts of the game. The original Doom already struggled enough..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
    • covid

      rustygizzardrustygizzardPred 3 meseci
  • When someone dislikes - what actually that person dislikes? Weird...

    Lynda ChanLynda ChanPred 3 meseci
  • This makes me more curious as to how the switch version will be like?

    SmashBreaultSmashBreaultPred 3 meseci
  • ID Tech 7: why the hell isnt every game made with this

    CRTCRTPred 3 meseci
    • Like Quake Champions 😿

      T3ebOT3ebOPred mesecem
  • Completed doom eternal 3times Doom 2016 is slow and boring in comparison Bought doom 2016 for switch Loved the port Now I need doom eternal for my switch to rip and tear on the go

    Neon RiderNeon RiderPred 3 meseci
  • D E T A I L

    Huge Act ManHuge Act ManPred 4 meseci
  • Man, I can't wait to get my hands on this engine.

    SirBaconBusterSirBaconBusterPred 4 meseci
  • I'm really surprised that Eternal uses forward rendering! that's a brave decision and has definitely given them an edge in performance especially since they figured out a way to produce similar lighting density and quality during gameplay. This game is a masterclass in optimization

    SirDimplesSirDimplesPred 4 meseci
  • ... with A Focus on 60fps ... Back in the early 2000s, nobody knew we would ever be capped to a framerate lower than what we had already. It's rediculous that people even need to mention this. And that a game aiming for 60 is outstanding today...

    Jacques RoesenJacques RoesenPred 4 meseci
    • @Nick Motsarsky on consoles, yes. On the PC I cant agree. Competitive gaming strived for frames eversince and there was good reason for it. Sure, games that wanted to set benchmarks could not run on high framerates on mid range systems when they came out, but there isnt a single shooter on this planet that aims for less than 60fps during design on PC. There is only marketing trying to fool people into thinking that the shader that is barely noticable and costs 30 percent performance must be enabled to play the game. Frames are important for a fluent experience. That was never any different.

      Jacques RoesenJacques RoesenPred 16 dnevi
    • Wtf are you talking about? 90's and 2000's were full of 20-30fps games on consoles and most powerful PCs could barely hit 30fps on Doom 3. 60fps stopped being the norm once 3D games came out..

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • Man, I wish my gaming PC was good enough to run this game! It couldn't run Doom 2016 at a solid 60fps even at Low settings (which looked worse than console in some respects) though maybe with the improved tech Eternal might stand a better chance? Still, I played it on base PS4 and, whilst the 60fps performance was mighty fine (and the top priority for sure), the blurriness when you looked further into the middle distance or beyond was definitely noticeable. In some ways it made me appreciate how ready I am for an upgrade to this nearly 7-year old hardware. The PS5 better well offer an improved backwards compatible version! This game after all is a true technical achievement (and a bloody brilliant game too!) and deserves to be played with the best presentation possible on consoles.

    Jonathan WalmsleyJonathan WalmsleyPred 4 meseci
    • Yeah, the original Doom was around Medium-High settings on consoles

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
  • I’ve always had the belief that in order to deem a game as “looking good” or not is to turn all the textures to essentially a single color per poly. If the lighting, color grading, contrast, and range of color are great than good textures just enhance the image. This game would look great with terrible textures still. Compare this to even new games like AC odyssey or Watch dogs legion. These games would look horrific with extremely low res textures. Get the feel done first then work on texture quality. That seems to be what is done here

    Devon MarrDevon MarrPred 4 meseci
  • ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻ ⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻⸻

    Krokante visKrokante visPred 4 meseci
  • i want an upgrade for series x and ps5

    Ryan CoffmanRyan CoffmanPred 4 meseci
  • I love this game and hate it just as much. The platforming and low ammo count takes all the fun out of the awesomeness.

    PAIR of SneakerheadsPAIR of SneakerheadsPred 5 meseci
  • incel creation vs chad id tech

    ninjacat230ninjacat230Pred 5 meseci
  • Is impossible to watch this vídeo in 4K. I dont know why.

    Leandro R. CunhaLeandro R. CunhaPred 5 meseci
  • I wish my PC would bottleneck at 300 FPS. Still, I get 120ish frames consistently on DOOM 2016, and I’m pretty happy with it.

    ScreechingSergalScreechingSergalPred 5 meseci
  • btw i don't have those stutters on my xbox one x. your hdd is probably dying.

    GraveUypoGraveUypoPred 5 meseci
  • i liked this at launch, and it's only growing on me. i already think it's the best game of the generation

    GraveUypoGraveUypoPred 5 meseci
  • 7:06 "check out all the extra detail that was added" me: there were helicopters in DOOM Eternal?

    Tristan TranTristan TranPred 5 meseci
  • i wish they will remaster 2016 with these improvements sometime in the future like a campaign only

    VEGITO BLUEVEGITO BLUEPred 5 meseci
  • 539FPS IN PC 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    HYDER STUDIOS2077HYDER STUDIOS2077Pred 5 meseci
    • And the engine has plenty of room to push GPU since id tech 7 can run games at up to 1,000 FPS.

      SeanSeanPred mesecem
  • unreal engine 5 : what ?

    xd kenxd kenPred 5 meseci
  • wait is that dusk music in the intro?

    DaccoDaccoPred 5 meseci
    • or andrew hulshult's?

      DaccoDaccoPred 5 meseci
  • cant wait to see next gen doom

    GonGonPred 5 meseci
  • Other fuckers publishers should learn let the devs go do their thing like sony studios and Nintendo. Optimized, and pro for me later no updates if I install it back again. Like yakuza games no updates, even ff7

    Raveen BikhaRaveen BikhaPred 5 meseci
  • Id Tech 8 will be a Titan of technology.

    Jesso Madcity281Jesso Madcity281Pred 5 meseci
  • I seriously am hyped to see what they do with ID tech 8

    kapil busawahkapil busawahPred 6 meseci
  • Tbh I was kinda disappointed by the performance on PC. While the level complexity and gore are greatly improved, I feel like the graphical fidelity wasn't exactly proportional to the FPS I had. With a lot of compromises in the settings (highest textures though) I hovered around 50 to 70 with occasional dips near 30. With Doom 2016 I could crank most settings to the highest and could play with well above 90 FPS which still makes it my favorite PC experience with a 1440p/144 Hz monitor. I have an R7 1700 and GTX 1080 btw.

    Chillazar HentaiweebChillazar HentaiweebPred 6 meseci
  • That's what I call "16 times the detail" :D

    PixelMurderPixelMurderPred 6 meseci
  • When he show console graphics difference I saw no differance

    those eyes poppingthose eyes poppingPred 6 meseci
  • i wonder how the glory kills are animated aspecially the ones with dismemberment

    VEGITO BLUEVEGITO BLUEPred 6 meseci
  • I still don't quite understand why everything is designed around such an athletic, agile character. Since when was that something Doom ever brough to mind?? They've mixed up their Quake with Doom again, making a good game in the process, I'm enjoying it, but it's not a fair reflection of the originals really.

    DuckAlert BeatsDuckAlert BeatsPred 6 meseci
  • Can't wait for the next Wolfenstein.

    GraphicsWhoreGraphicsWhorePred 6 meseci
  • The game loads in 3-4 sec on my NVME SSD... First time I was like da fffffff 😱 ID really achieved something great with this engine.

    SolaireSolairePred 6 meseci
    • First time I played I installed it on my NVME drive. But I've moved it to my SATA HDD's I use for storage or to "park" games (it's actually 2 x 3 TB HDD's in RAID 0 but I don't think that makes much difference). The game still loads levels in about 3-4 seconds. It's crazy how fast this engine loads levels.

      SeanSeanPred mesecem
    • It's the same on a SATA SSD.

      Zato ZatoichiZato ZatoichiPred 5 meseci
  • 5:48 but not for the praetor skin tbh that could use a remodel

    VEGITO BLUEVEGITO BLUEPred 6 meseci
  • Layout looks very similar to Ue4

    VEGITO BLUEVEGITO BLUEPred 6 meseci
  • just imagine what could be done with next gen

    ParisParisPred 6 meseci
  • I wish Bethesda would make all of their games with ID tech 7 instead of using the dying engine they have now

    Dorito dustDorito dustPred 6 meseci
    • I know Microsoft owning Zenimax/Bethesda changes things, but before that Bethesda did allow any of the studios they owned to use id tech if they wanted (but no studios outside the Zenimax/Bethesda family could license it). A few games did take id tech and modify it for their games. Evil Within 1 and 2 (Evil Within 2 branded their fork of id tech 5 "STEM Engine"), Dishonored 2 (they branded it "void engine", they seem to be continuing development of void engine since death loop uses it). But those were heavily edited versions of id tech 5 with maybe some id tech 6 code (id tech 6 was still in development). Now that Microsoft bought Zenimax that means any other Microsoft owned studio could use id tech if they wanted.

      SeanSeanPred mesecem
  • Probably the most well optimized game of this generation. Insane how theyve managed to get it looking so damn good and play so fluidly at the same time.

    bleach4711bleach4711Pred 6 meseci
  • Its so depressing to realise most of what you see on even high end game engines is essentially just a bunch of triangles with fancy textures and lighting applied. Lots of cheating under the hood with what is not on screen effectively vanished into the ether. We seem to have hit a plateau with each iteration only advancing in areas that have been known for some time wasting a massive increase in raw horsepower on what could be described as polishing the Fnking Apples. Whichever way you look at it they're still only apples. We need an entirely new way to draw things on screen that doesn't use triangles.

    Arron KingArron KingPred 6 meseci
    • So.. Squares?

      Nick MotsarskyNick MotsarskyPred 16 dnevi
    • @Digital Foundry I feel similarly. Its ruined the magic of cinema. Despite orders of magnitude increases in onscreen rendering fidelity its easy to spot. I think Tim Sweeney's talk on the near impossible task of capturing the natural fluidity of human movement explains this shortcoming best. T2 didn't use CGI for most of its stunts, decades later we are nowhere near capturing those moments using CGI. Its easy to spot and for me always ruined the experience. Avatar is different, it doesn't try to pretend.

      Arron KingArron KingPred 6 meseci
    • How do you feel about offline rendered CGI films?

      Digital FoundryDigital FoundryPred 6 meseci
  • Bethesda: Worst game engine Id: Best game engine Oh the irony

    KaleidoKaleidoPred 6 meseci
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